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2022年12月17日星期六

Topic•How to cultivate the new generation of successors of the Chinese church? 4. Choosing people who are following God's will | needs prayer and obedience

Translated By Richard Zou

How can the Chinese church cultivate its new generation of successors? Choosing people who are in line with God's will requires prayer and obedience

Following up on the topic shared last time by a pastor in North China, "The mentor-disciple tradition may be more useful to us than Western pastor-based systems," a pastor in South China emphasized the importance of praying and obeying God.

A Chinese online Christian newspaper interviewed Liang Sisheng (pseudonym), a post-70s pastor from southern China with rich pastoral experience.

The Christian Times: What is your opinion of the church's efforts to raise a new generation of spiritual leaders?

Pastor Liang: That's a good question. The church needs to do this over the long term according to the Bible. Timothy was exhorted to not only make disciples but also to care for those who can learn and teach others in Paul's exhortation to Timothy. (when summarizing)

From the Old Testament to the present, and even before Christ's return, the church has had difficulty raising successors. Consequently, the church must do a good job of discipleship and watch out for the next generation of successors the Lord is raising among us.

The Christian Times: How important do you think it is for the Chinese church to raise up a new generation of leaders?

Liang: If the church chooses the right successor for the next generation, it will be a great help to the church's development. However, choosing the wrong person can be very harmful to the church. Therefore, the selection of the next generation of church successors is a matter that should not be taken lightly.

The Christian Times: How can Chinese church pastors become more open-minded about raising up the next generation of successors? In practice, what should be done?

Pastor Liang: I think that the most important is the work of the Lord, that is, whom the Holy Spirit is willing to choose. Just like God chose and anointed David. When God asked Samuel to anoint him, he looked at the wrong person at the beginning, he thought that might be one of David's brothers. But God reminded him that you look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the inner ward heart. So then he could not follow his own will in this matter, but he must seek the will of the Lord.

From this perspective, as a pastor who is leading a church, he is not just looking at a person's talent or whether a person has leadership qualities, or how theologically literate he is. In fact, the most important thing is that the current leader needs to observe, pray, and seek the Lord's will. Let the Lord show me who the successor of my church should be, how I should do it, etc.

The Christian Times: Regarding how to choose a successor who is after God's will, what factors do you think must be taken into consideration? What kind of person do you think is a successor after God’s will?

Pastor Liang: For some  Conservative Churches that focus on church constitutions, I think their election system has hidden dangers. For example, how long does it take for the church to be re-election, and so on? Although it can reflect public opinion very well, sometimes it may sometimes have problems in reflecting God's will.

Especially a church, assuming that the church has such regulations. For example, the charter of our church is elective, requiring the congregation to vote. So in this regard, we should actually teach the congregation to pray frequently for this matter, that is, we should pray and seek God’s guidance as a whole, not just our emotional and impressional likes and dislikes that determine the result.

When God first chose Saul to be the king of the people of Israel, Saul was not pleasing to God. At that time, the choice of King Saul was based on public opinion, and the suggestions from public opinion were not necessarily the best results.

Christian Times: What do you think should be a healthy model for cultivating and selecting successors? Which concepts or models of our current Chinese churches need to be updated?

Pastor Liang: I have seen some real cases. For example, some old pastors of traditional churches choose successors but later found that the effect may not be good. There are also presbyterian churches that cherish the election process. If there are strong pastors, everyone will elect them, and generally, there will be no problems. But if there are no strong pastors, the relationship between pastors and preachers will be very tense every time there is an election. 

As far as the Chinese are concerned, it is easy for many Christians to learn from the methods of the world. Those who are elected are not beneficial to the church, but instead, bring about divisions in the church. Therefore, when the church chooses the next successor, it needs prayer and the work of the Holy Spirit.

If we take the seven deacons selected in the book of Acts as an example, the apostle Peter proposed the standard of seven deacons. The first is that the entire church needs to have this awareness, and then pray for it and seek the Lord’s guidance. The second is that everyone has an obedient heart.

In addition, a large church may have more pastors and co-workers, and it involves many people on the co-workers' team. The successor must have the ability to promote church evangelism, management ability, and public relations ability. If this person is not good at interpersonal relationships, and the interpersonal relationship is relatively weak, he will not be able to do well in a large church. However, because small churches are relatively tiny, in fact, it is relatively simple for interpersonal relationships.

For small churches, it is easier to bring some people to cultivate. While doing discipleship training, observe at the same time, and then watch the Lord's guidance. Because you still need to seek God's will - who God has chosen. Because for someone as experienced as Samuel, God’s choice of David was completely beyond Samuel’s experience.

The most common mistake we make is actually following our own will beyond the will of God.

话题•如何培养中国教会新一代接棒人?(四)|选出符合上帝心意 的人需要祷告和顺服

 继上次华北一牧师分享的话题:“比起西方聘用牧者制,师徒传承对我们可能更

适用”之后,华南一牧师强调选出符合上帝心意的人需要祷告和顺服

近日,一位来自华南的有着丰富牧会经验的70后梁思圣(化名)牧者,接受了

一家中国网络基督教报纸基督时报的采访。

基督时报:您如何看教会在培养新一代属灵领袖,或者教会接棒人这个事情?

梁思圣(Pastor Liang):你说的是一个很好的问题。按照圣经来讲,这是教会

需要长期去做的工作。保罗对提摩太的劝勉中,保罗不单是让提摩太来做门徒

,而且让提摩太留心那些能够领受教导而且能教导别人的人.(==当summary)

从旧约时代一直到现在,再到基督再来之前,每代教会都有生产之苦。因而,

教会是需要一方面是做好门徒培训,一方面就留心主在我们当中兴起的下一代

的接棒人。

基督时报:您觉得培养新一代的领导力或者说新一代的教会接棒人对于中国教

会的意义是什么呢?

Pastor Liang:教会在新一代接棒人的事上选对了,会对教会的发展有极大的

帮助。但是把人选择错了,就会对教会产生极大的危害。因此,选择下一代的

教会接班人的事情,它不是可有可无的事情,是必须严肃思考的事情。

基督时报:您觉得中国教会牧者在培养新一代接棒人的事情上怎样在观念上变

得更加开阔?具体操作上应该要怎么做呢?

Pastor Liang: 我认为,这个事情它最重要部分还是主的工作,也就是圣灵愿

意选拔谁的问题。就像上帝拣选并膏抹大卫。上帝让撒母耳去膏抹的时候,他

一开始是看错人,他以为是大卫的哥哥们。但是上帝提醒他说,你们是看外貌

,但耶和华是看内心。所以他就不能在这个事情上面随着自己的意思,而是一

定要去寻求主的意思。

从这个角度来讲,作为正在领导教会的牧者,他不是仅仅去观察一个人的才干

或者是一个人有没有领袖气质,或者说他的神学素养如何。其实最要紧的还是

现任的领袖需要去观察,需要去祷告,需要去寻求主的旨意。让主指明我的教

会的接班人是谁,我应该如何做等等。

基督时报:对于如何选出合上帝心意的接棒人,您觉得要考虑到那些必要的因

素呢?您觉得什么样的人是合神心意的接棒人呢?

Pastor Liang: 对一些建制派且注重教会章程的教会,我觉得他们的选举制度

是有隐忧的。比如,多长时间后,教会就要改选一次之类的。虽然它可以很好

的反映民意,但有的时候在反映上帝的心意这方面,可能有时候会出问题。

特别是一个教会,假设这个教会是有这样的规章。比如说我们的教会的章程是

选举制的,要会众投票的。那么在这方面其实就要教导会众为此事常常祷告,

就是整体都要祷告寻求上帝的带领,而不仅仅是我们在情感上、印象上的好恶

来决定结果的。

起初上帝选择扫罗做以色利百姓的王的时候,扫罗并不是上帝所喜悦的。当时

选择扫罗王是出于民意,民意出来的建议不一定是最好的结果。

基督时报:您觉得一个健康的培养并选择接棒人的模式应该是怎样的呢?我们

当下中国教会哪些观念或者模式需要更新呢?

 

Pastor Liang: 我见过一些真实的案例,比如有的传统的教会的老牧者选择了

接班人,但是后面发现效果未必好。也有比如重视选举流程的长老教的教会,


如果有比较强的牧者,大家都会选,一般不会出现问题。但是如果没有比较强

的牧者,每次选举的时候,牧师、传道人之间的关系会非常紧张。 

那对中国人来讲,很多基督徒容易借鉴世上的方法来做。选出来的人,并不是

对教会有益处的,反而就带来教会的分裂。所以,教会在选择下一任接班人的

时,需要祷告和圣灵的工作。

如果拿使徒行传中选出7位执事作为案例的话,使徒彼得他提出了七位执事的标

准。第一是在整个教会当中都需要有这个意识,然后要为此而祷告,寻求主的

带领。第二就是,大家都带有一个顺服的心。

另外,大型教会可能牧者同工比较多,它牵扯到的同工团队的人很多。要有对

教会传道推动能力、管理的能力和公关的能力等。如果这个人不善于做人际关

系,人际关系相对弱一些的话,在大型教会是做不好的。但小型教会因为它相

对小,其实它讲人际关系比较简单。

对小型教会来讲,比较容易,带着一些人去培养。一边做门徒训练,一边去观

察,然后看主的带领。因为你还是要观察上帝的心意——上帝选立了谁。因为

就像撒母耳这么有经验的人,上帝选大卫这件事情是完全超出撒母耳的经验。

我们最容易犯的错误其实是凭己意越过上帝的旨意。

2022年12月13日星期二

Church in Xiangshan Holds Funeral Service for Their Beloved Pastor

 Translated By Richard Zou

A funeral service for a pastor who had served in Jiangsu and Zhejiang was held in his hometown Xiangshan, Ningbo.


On December 7, 2022, Pastor Huang Fangzheng's funeral service was held at Daqitou Church in Xiangshan County, Ningbo. He was born in Tianyanghu Village, Dingtang Town in 1923, and returned to his heavenly home on December 3, 2022.


During the funeral service, Pastor Gao Jianwei, president of Ningbo TSPM, gave a sermon entitled "The Best Service" based on 2 Timothy 4:1-8, telling that Pastor Huang has fought a good fight, finished his race, kept the faith, and been crowned with righteousness.


Condolence messages were sent by Nanjing CC&TSPM and Nanjing Daosheng Church where he had worked, and Zhejiang Theological Seminary where he had taught. Pastor Shan Weixiang, vice president and general secretary of CCC, sent a condolence letter. At the age of 92, pastor Huang wrote down his life experiences and testified God's love with the title, "Rainbow After Storm".


Pastor Huang Fangzheng was the third son of Mr. Huang Detang, a missionary volunteer. He was influenced by his father's faith since he was a child. His mother died at the age of 12.


In 1944, shortly after he got married, the Japanese soldiers found that he had no calluses on his hands, so he was sentenced as a spy and could have been shot or buried alive at any time. He earnestly prayed with tears and made a vow to God that if he escaped danger, he would dedicate himself to preaching for the Lord. His father and church members also prayed for him. By God's protection, he was rescued on January 3, 1945. He resigned from his teaching position and went to preach in West District.


In 1946, the church sent him to Huazhong Theological Seminary in Wuchang for further study. After graduating in 1948, he was appointed to pastor at the Meixu Church in Zhenhai, Ningbo, by the Methodist Ningbo Diocese.


When the Cultural Revolution swept across the country in 1966, he was condemned as a social outcast with problems in past, and his family of seven was relocated to a deep mountain valley with only 18 other families. As a result of living in caves and eating bad food, his children were unable to attend school, lacked nutrition, and suffered sequelae.


The Gang of Four fell from power in 1976, and his grievances were redressed. After returning to Xiangshan, he built churches, trained young people, pastored believers, and implemented religious policies.


In 1985, Pastor Cai Wenhao invited him to teach at the newly established Zhejiang Theological Seminary. Later, he pastored St. Paul's Church and Daosheng Church in Nanjing, Jiangsu Province, and was elected as the vice president of Nanjing TSPM. He still spent time every year caring for the church in Xiangshan, his hometown. In 1990, Dancheng Church hired him as a consultant.


In 1997, in order to unite different denominations, Xiangshan Church was preparing to establish a Christian Council and invited him to be the first chairman. Following the mode of  Nanjing church, he established six ministry groups to promote the work of the church and train young co-workers. In 2001, he retired and only worked as a consultant for the Xiangshan CC&TSPM, but he still insisted on doing pastoral work. In his 90s, he even preached in rural churches and presided over communion services.


In 1997, he was elected as a member of the Xiangshan Political Consultative Conference, actively participated in the discussion of community affairs, and helped raise 25000 yuan from Nanjing Amity Foundation for the Datang Water Project. In his spare time, he created paintings with scriptures and spread the gospel through calligraphy and painting.


In 2011, he asked his eldest daughter to invest millions of yuan to build the House of Servants of God, which had been one of his dreams for years.


Enjoying a long life, Pastor Huang was in good health. On December 3, 2022, he was called to his heavenly home at 4:40 pm. His life is depicted in this elegiac couplet: blessed by God, you escaped from danger and served the Lord with all your heart; rehabilitated from persecution, you honored God and benefited others like a rainbow after a storm. His labors in the Lord will not be in vain, and his work will be rewarded. 

2022年12月11日星期日

The Church in Zhejiang held a memorial service for the pastor who served in Jiangsu

Translated By Richard Zou

A funeral service for a pastor who served in Jiangsu and Zhejiang was held in his hometown Ningbo, Zhejiang.

On December 7, 2022, Pastor Huang Fangzheng's memorial service was held at Daqitou Church in Xiangshan County, Ningbo. He was born in Tianyanghu Village, Dingtang Town in 1923, and returned to his heavenly home on December 3, 2022.

During the memorial service, Pastor Gao Jianwei, chairman of the Ningbo Three-Self Patriotic Association, gave a sermon titled "The Best Service" based on verses 1 to 8 of 2 Timothy, stating about Pastor Huang, "he has fought a good fight,  finished his course, kept the faith, and he has been crowned with righteousness and glory."

Condolence messages were sent by Nanjing Christian Council and Nanjing Daosheng Church where he worked, and Zhejiang Theological Seminary where he taught. Pastor Shan Weixiang, vice president and chief executive of the China Christian Council, sent a condolence letter. At the age of 92, pastor Huang wrote down his life experiences and testified God's love with the title "Rainbow After a storm".

Pastor Huang Fangzheng is the third son of Mr. Huang Detang, a missionary volunteer. He was influenced by his father's faith since he was a child, and his mother died at the age of 12. In 1944, shortly after he got married, the Japanese soldiers found that he had no calluses on his hands, so he was sentenced as spies and might be shot or buried alive at any time. He prayed to God earnestly and with tears, and made a vow to God that if he escaped danger, he would dedicate himself to preaching for the Lord. His father and church members also prayed for him. By God's protection, he was rescued on January 3, 1945. He resigned from his teaching position and preached in West District in gratitude.

The church selected him and sent him to Huazhong Theological Seminary in Wuchang for further study in 1946. Following graduation in 1948, he was appointed pastor at the Meixu Church in Zhenhai, Ningbo, by the Ningbo Methodist Church Diocese.

As the Cultural Revolution swept the country in 1966, he was condemned as a social outcast with complicated family relations, and his family of seven was relocated to a deep mountain valley with only 18 other families. As a result of cave dwellings and bad food, his children were unable to attend school, lacked nutrition, and suffered sequelae.

The Gang of Four fell from power in 1976, and his grievances were vindicated. After returning to Xiangshan, he built churches, trained young people, pastored believers, and implemented religious policies.

In 1985, Pastor Cai Wenhao invited him to teach at the newly established Zhejiang Theological Seminary. Later, he pastored St. Paul's Church and Daosheng Church in Nanjing, Jiangsu Province, and was elected as the vice-chairman of the Nanjing Three-Self Patriotic Association. But every year he spends time caring about the church in Xiangshan, his hometown. In 1990, Dancheng Church hired him as a consultant.

In 1997, to unite different denominations, Xiangshan Church was preparing to establish a Christian Association and invited him to be the first president. Following the style of the Nanjing church, he established six ministry groups to promote the work of the church and train young co-workers. In 2001, he retired to serve as a consultant to the Xiangshan Christian Council, but he still insisted on pastoral work. In his 90s, he even preached in rural churches and presided over communion services.

In 1997, he was elected as a member of the Xiangshan Political Consultative Conference, actively participated in the discussion of community affairs, and attracted 35000$ from the Nanjing Amity Foundation for the Datang Water Project. In his spare time, he created paintings with scriptures written in them and spread the gospel through calligraphy and painting.

In 2011, he asked his eldest daughter to invest over 140,000 dollars to build the House of Servants of God, which had been on his dream list for years.

Despite being over a century old, Pastor Huang was still in good health. On December 3, 2022, he was called to his heavenly home at 4:40 pm. His life is depicted in this elegiac couplet: blessed by God, you escaped from danger and served the Lord with all your heart; Rehabilitated from persecution, you honored God and benefited others, like a rainbow after a rainstorm. We believe that his labors in the Lord will not be in vain, and his work will be rewarded. (==when summary)